Christian Voters Know Better

25 10 2006

Filed under: Politics, Postmodernism, Christianity, Election

UPDATED – 10/25, 10:45 pm: My good friend Pete weighs in. BNF 🙂
UPDATED – 10/26, 11:15 pm: Phil Hoover writes. Scroll for comments.
Thanks guys.

For the last 20 years, Christian voters have been described as “nutty”, “gullible”, etc. Within their own ranks, including several I know personally that are good friends, some Christians have charged that “GOP” does not stand for “God’s Own Party”, or that Christians do not be “married to the Republican Party”.

To prove this point, these misguided Christians list the highly publicized failures of the GOP such as Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld’s challenges with the War in Iraq, and most recently, Rep. Mark Foley.

What strikes me here is that these cynical Christians smear these good people as if they are expected to be no less than perfect, and they never offer any new ideas as to what Christians should do. Instead, they shake their finger at Christians that seek to be politically active and take the easy road by suggesting the analogy of Christians involved in politics is like adding a teaspoon of manure to a gallon of ice cream.

Most of these Christians are part of humanist-leaning movement called Postmodernism. My question to them is this:

If you are so critical of Republicans, why are you NOT supportive of anyone else?

I have pondered this for several months and came up with three reasons:

1.) You don’t vote. Or…

2.) You vote for independents in an effort to avoid the “lessor of the two evils”, thereby increasing the workload on Christians who are putting work behind their faith. Or…

3.) You vote Democrat and are too ashamed to voice support because their cornerstone issues are abortion and homosexual marriage, which Christians certainly know are wrong.

What do you have better to offer? What else can we do?

1). Don’t vote. Fine. Don’t criticize.

2.) Cast a “throw-away” vote? Might as well take option 1.

3.) Vote Democrat? Wonderful, put people in power that kill babies, don’t want to defend our country, and let homosexuals hijack the cornerstone of society – the family.

If the Democrat party ever stops hating EVERYTHING conservative and comes up with some ideas that I can support, both morally and politically, I’ll vote for them. But, where are these Democrats? Zell Miller was probably the last. But he didn’t leave the party – it left him.

Certainly the GOP has its failures, challenges, and issues. But if you’re only criticism is that too many Christians are “married to the GOP”, I’ll have to live with that because, right now, that is what it takes to keep us free and some sense of morals until we get enough Christians back in public office to keep everyone happy.

Updated – 10/25, 10:45 pm. Pete Zefo:

I have to respond to some of the issues presented here.

I am a cynical Christian in regards to the political process. While I feel that many of the morality issues are better handled by the Republican party I will not be defined by two issues (abortion and the homosexual agenda).

As far as the two big issues go (abortion and gay rights) I would say this:

1) Do I think a certain politician is going to make it easier for a woman (or teenager) to acquire an abortion? By the way, are the Republicans ready for a Pro-Choice Candidate in 2008? It is very likely to happen.

2) Gays should have the right to fair hiring practices, avoid discrimination and hate crimes, and take care of their loved ones. Frankly, homosexual marriage concerns me about as much as the hundreds of “weddings” that take place each day in Las Vegas. I do not believe that God honors either union as holy and acceptable before His eyes.

Sorry for the rambling, BNF!

Thanks for sharing, Pete. I will not be defined by any issue, but it will define our children if we don’t do the right thing while we still have a voice. I still don’t see a better suggestion. Just fear of being “married to the GOP.” Guess I am a more of a fundementalist than modernist. I can live with that.

Updated – 10/26, 11:15 pm. Phil Hoover:

As one of those “Post-Moderns” myself, I realize that regardless of how “thin the pancake is”–there is always two sides, at least.

I agree with Peter Zefo on this one: I will not be defined by two issues (Abortion and Homosexuality). Those are indeed important issues, but there are also alot more issues in this country–and Christ-followers will do well to pay attention to them as well.

Jesus said, “By this shall all men know you are My disciples…”

And it wasn’t by some slick, negative campaign in October and early November.

Thank you for adding to it, Phil. My main concern about your outlook remains unanswered. That is, what do you suggest Christians do better that we are not doing? And secondly, whom do you actually support (which of the three from the post)?

Consider this: Abortion rights activists, peaceniks, homosexual rights activists, cloning proponents, open-border activists, affirmative action supporters, anti-punishment of criminals/terrorists wacko’s are all latched on to the Democratic party. Do they care how they are labeled. Some, maybe. For the most part, no.

Another commenter on this post wrote the following as an idea:

I think that rather than dressing up constantly in an elephant suit, evangelicals should have the attitude that we want the government to vote “this way” on “these issues” and we will go with whoever best supports us in this, no matter what party they are from.

How does this differ from what being “married to the GOP?” How does it differ from conservative Christians from doing what liberals have done with the Democrat party – latch on to the party that best represents their interests?

To me, I hear the same general idea as the above commenter coming from Postmodernists. But, I am unable to draw the line of distinction in when actions become too “Republican” for your comfort. Nor am I able to see where your support lies or what Christians should be doing.

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29 09 2008
speedmeisterp

We’ve had 8 years of Republican president, but did they change the abortion laws? Of course not, republicans just use that to get elected. If they changed it, how could they trick people into voting for them. McCain admitted in the 2008 presidential election that republican George Bush, the highest ranking republican supports torture. So I ask you:
1) How many mansions did Jesus own?
2) How many people did Jesus torture?

29 09 2008
Truth and Reason

Obama supports abortion.

I ask you:

How many babies would Jesus have aborted?

Which is more important? Lives or houses?

Keep voting Republican.

29 09 2008
Mr. Incredible

==We’ve had 8 years of Republican president, but did they change the abortion laws?==

The prez is one person. So, who’s this “they”?

The prez doesn’t make law. The Executive enforces law.

==…If they changed it, how could they trick people into voting for them.==

So, those who vote for your people can’t be tricked, and those who vote for Republicans have been tricked?

== McCain admitted in the 2008 presidential election that republican George Bush, the highest ranking republican supports torture.==

Links so that we may check it out to see whether you’re trying to trick us.

==So I ask you: 1) How many mansions did Jesus own?==

(Joh 14:2) In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

==2) How many people did Jesus torture?==

(Mat 8:29) And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

(Mar 5:7) And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

(Luk 8:28) When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.

(Luk 16:28) For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

(1Jn 4:18) There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

(Rev 9:5) And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

(Rev 14:11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

(Rev 18:7) How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

(Rev 18:10) Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

(Rev 18:15) The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing…

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