If Joe Lieberman Can See the Warning Signs . . .

27 04 2007

Filed under: War on Terror, Defeat-o-crats, Reid, Lieberman, Politics

. . . Shouldn’t Harry Reid and the Democrats? Or is it that they choose Defeat out of ignorance to gain power? Joe Lieberman delivered a speech Thursday morning that warns of the consequences from the passage of the surrender bill that the Senate passed yesterday. The Tank has the whole speech. Read the whole thing. Here are a few highlights:

When we say that U.S. troops shouldn’t be “policing a civil war,” that their operations should be restricted to this narrow list of missions, what does this actually mean?

To begin with, it means that our troops will not be allowed to protect the Iraqi people from the insurgents and militias who are trying to terrorize and kill them. Instead of restoring basic security, which General Petraeus has argued should be the central focus of any counterinsurgency campaign, it means our soldiers would instead be ordered, by force of this proposed law, not to stop the sectarian violence happening all around them—no matter how vicious or horrific it becomes.

In short, it means telling our troops to deliberately and consciously turn their backs on ethnic cleansing, to turn their backs on the slaughter of innocent civilians—men, women, and children singled out and killed on the basis of their religion alone. It means turning our backs on the policies that led us to intervene in the civil war in Yugoslavia in the 1990s, the principles that today lead many of us to call for intervention in Darfur.

This makes no moral sense at all.

It also makes no strategic or military sense either.

Al Qaeda’s own leaders have repeatedly said that one of the ways they intend to achieve victory in Iraq is to provoke civil war. They are trying to kill as many people as possible today, precisely in the hope of igniting sectarian violence, because they know that this is their best way to collapse Iraq’s political center, overthrow Iraq’s elected government, radicalize its population, and create a failed state in the heart of the Middle East that they can use as a base.

That is why Al Qaeda blew up the Golden Mosque in Samarra last year. And that is why we are seeing mass casualty suicide bombings by Al Qaeda in Baghdad now.

Captain Ed:

This speech has led some to wonder if Lieberman may not be warning Harry Reid and the rest of the caucus that he’s about ready to leave. That would put the Democrats in the minority and the Republicans in the majority, effectively “firing” Reid. Allahpundit notes that it may actually have no effect, at least in terms of committee leadership assignments. The Democrats at that point might convince a Republican to switch to their caucus as well, perhaps Gordon Smith of Oregon or one of the gentleladies from Maine.

Michelle Malkin:

Get out the veto pen, President Bush.


The following was written by my good friend, and really smart guy, Bruce Kesler. Please visit Democracy Project to read the rest.

How do you know when you’ve lost? When you’re dead or you’ve surrendered. Otherwise, you’re in the fight.

How do you know that you’re going to lose? When your death or surrender are certain.

If you’re not certain, and the stakes are worth it, you continue to fight.

If you don’t believe the stakes are worth it, then quit.

If those on your side don’t recognize who the enemy is, they’ll walk away or fritter away possibilities by turning on each other.

The Democrat leadership is certain that the United States, and those in Iraq who struggle to build, will fail. The Democrats don’t believe the stakes there and consequent are worth having either an open mind or perseverance.

There is no one knowledgeable who agrees with the Democrats. Regardless of whether a critic or supporter of U.S. strategy and tactics, all those knowledgeable recognize that the consequences of bugging out would be even worse than what’s there now. The Democrat leaders seek to cloak their irresponsibility in formulas for a small residual force — that would be overwhelmed by the challenges — or regional states’ cooperation — by sworn adversaries and accommodators with little record of being or incentive to be constructive.

Hot Air has a letter from a retired USMC Cpl that wrote in response to Reid’s “Lost war” remark:

Our nation is not at war, our Military is at war, America is at the mall.

Roughly put that is the war in Iraq. The American people simply don’t care what is really happening in Iraq. If they did they would look deeper and talk to the troops who have served there. Instead they rely on the news media for their flawed information.

And what’s worse than America not caring is our politicians who are supposed to know what is going on using the troops as a political lever to flaunt their own opinions and electoral goals. How many Democrats are in office today that go there because they didnt support the war in Iraq? Using the ignorance of civilian America to launch themselves onto a political platform.

These politicians don’t support the troops or anything that they are doing. The troops want a victory in Iraq. If nothing else to say that our friends, our comrades who fought beside us and never made it home, did not die in vain. I dont know many Marines like myself, who haven’t had a friend or brother die. Most know several, sometimes too many, who never made it home to the freedom of our great country. And that is a shame. To say that these great men who died for our country did it all for nothing is a travesty and does no honor to their memories.

I am not saying that Republicans are any better, personally I feel that our political party system needs a serious renovation. The way both parties have used the troops as a bargaining tool is personally sickening to me. Using human life as a chip to cash in for political power is disgusting. And thats what they are all doing. It just seems that as of right now the Republicans are the lesser evil in the political nightmare of the war.

I hope that you get this and are able to put my words out there for the people to see. I am no philosopher, but I tried to put things into the best perspective I could. For someone who has been there and seen the tradgedy of what Saddam created I know that we have done the right thing in Iraq. No matter what liberal America has to say.
Thank you,

Neil Frustaglio

Cpl/USMC (Ret)

The Defeat-o-crats have to be against the war. But how sad and shameful it is that a political party must invest itself 100% in defeat in order to win power that will only be shortlived when America suffers another terrorist attac
k. If the progress our troops make before the 2008 elections satisfies Americans, Democrats will be guaranteed a defeat of their own. They must to do all they can now to ensure our military is defeated so they can gain political power.




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